Comments on: You cannot be serious http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/ Author James Barclay on the myriad issues of sport Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:23:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: JamesB http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-25 JamesB Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:57:20 +0000 http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/#comment-25 Got to say I've been to games where hanging out for a draw has been incredibly exciting. Support a club like mine and know the joy of a point when you deserve none at all... I think the problem with ending every game with a shoot out if necessary diminishes the joy of victory. Cheapens it. I get it in a cup game, I just don't see it in a league format where accumulating points is what it's all about. One point can be so vital. Ipswich stayed up one season by dint of hanging out for a draw at Blackburn. Could it ever have been right to then settle the game on pens and maybe relegate the team because their spot kicks weren't quite as good? To make a shoot out fair, both teams must have as much to gain or lose. In the example above, Blackburn would surely win nine out of ten times because to them, it barely matters and hence it is like scoring in a training session. For Ipswich, it would have been playing for their survival... Got to say I've been to games where hanging out for a draw has been incredibly exciting. Support a club like mine and know the joy of a point when you deserve none at all...

I think the problem with ending every game with a shoot out if necessary diminishes the joy of victory. Cheapens it. I get it in a cup game, I just don't see it in a league format where accumulating points is what it's all about. One point can be so vital.

Ipswich stayed up one season by dint of hanging out for a draw at Blackburn. Could it ever have been right to then settle the game on pens and maybe relegate the team because their spot kicks weren't quite as good?

To make a shoot out fair, both teams must have as much to gain or lose. In the example above, Blackburn would surely win nine out of ten times because to them, it barely matters and hence it is like scoring in a training session. For Ipswich, it would have been playing for their survival...

]]> By: Jez http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Jez Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:21:42 +0000 http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/#comment-24 hmmm maybe... I'm on the fence with this one but I have to say both feet are on the side of penalty shoot outs. Soccer is an unusual game in that a match is far more likely to end in a draw than most other games. That's not particularly exciting for the fans. Winning IS exciting and cause for celebration. Penalty shoot-outs at least ensure that a game ends with a winner, skill factor argument aside. Fans of the winning team can go to the pub, drink, be merry, gloat and have a good time. Fans of the losing team can semi enjoy the lively atmosphere and those with open minds can perhaps share the enjoyment vicariously. There's no thrill for either team in a draw, a draw is relatively boring. Keeping in mind that my comments are perhaps heavily weighted on experiencing a game live in a stadium and not on the idiot box. Watching ANY sport on TV at home alone just does not compare to a stadium/group pub experience. Your time would best be served reading a good book. hmmm maybe... I'm on the fence with this one but I have to say both feet are on the side of penalty shoot outs. Soccer is an unusual game in that a match is far more likely to end in a draw than most other games. That's not particularly exciting for the fans. Winning IS exciting and cause for celebration. Penalty shoot-outs at least ensure that a game ends with a winner, skill factor argument aside. Fans of the winning team can go to the pub, drink, be merry, gloat and have a good time. Fans of the losing team can semi enjoy the lively atmosphere and those with open minds can perhaps share the enjoyment vicariously. There's no thrill for either team in a draw, a draw is relatively boring.

Keeping in mind that my comments are perhaps heavily weighted on experiencing a game live in a stadium and not on the idiot box. Watching ANY sport on TV at home alone just does not compare to a stadium/group pub experience. Your time would best be served reading a good book.

]]> By: JamesB http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-22 JamesB Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:31:01 +0000 http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/#comment-22 And you know what worries me too? It's that technology may not get used because the authorities 'don't want a stop start game.' What the bloody hell do they think they have now? The only game more stop start is American Football. And it's still exciting, dammit. And you know what worries me too? It's that technology may not get used because the authorities 'don't want a stop start game.' What the bloody hell do they think they have now? The only game more stop start is American Football. And it's still exciting, dammit.

]]> By: Ariel http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Ariel Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:27:21 +0000 http://www.barclaytalkssport.com/2007/03/19/you-cannot-be-serious/#comment-21 LOL :) I reckon they're just trying to deflect attention away from their completely insane refusal to consider replay technology for key decisions... LOL :)

I reckon they're just trying to deflect attention away from their completely insane refusal to consider replay technology for key decisions...

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